High Strangeness: UFOs and the Secret Pentagon Study

Monday, December 18, 2017

UFOs and the Secret Pentagon Study

By now most of the world has heard of the top secret $22 million Pentagon UFO study revealed in the December 16 New York Times, and I'm sure a lot of us are scratching our heads over the article and asking a lot of questions about this so-called "Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program," or AATIP.


Here are some of my questions:

  1. If, as the report states, the bulk of the $22 million AATIP budget went to billionaire aerospace entrepreneur Robert Bigelow to construct buildings in which to store captured alien technology, does that mean that Bigelow retained the right to keep whatever technologies or artifacts might be discovered/recovered by the program? Remember that when Bigelow struck a deal with MUFON around this same timeframe, he insisted that any physical evidence of a "nuts and bolts" object recovered by the MUFON STAR Team would belong to him.
  2. Was the supposed shutdown of AATIP in 2012 due to a lack of results, a lack of money, or both? 
  3. If the mission of AATIP was/is to determine whether UFOs pose an "Advanced Aviation Threat," doesn't that presuppose that UFOs are real and are intelligently controlled physical objects? On what basis would AATIP have decided this?
  4. What has this "whistleblower" Luiz Elizondo, who claims to have been in charge of AATIP from 2007 to 2012, been doing for the past five years? Why release this bombshell news now when he could have done it in, say, 2012, when the project was defunded?
  5. U.S. Senator Harry Reid claims that AATIP is one of his proudest accomplishments, which implies that the program produced results, so exactly what results does he think it produced?
  6. If you listen to today's Times podcast about this story, reporter Helene Cooper says at about the 11:35 mark that "...the people who operate (AATIP) tend to be true believers," but we know from the fate of the Air Force's Project Sign in the late 1940s that when "true believers" are running a UFO research program the results and conclusions are going to be skewed towards the extraterrestrial hypothesis and ultimately rejected by the Pentagon brass. Did the AATIP meet this same fate? And if so, can its conclusions be trusted?

I'm not dissing the reporting at all. There could very well be something very big and exciting going on here. But I think it behooves us to keep asking questions and demanding answers.


19 comments:

Anonymous said...

I wonder why everyone is getting worked up over this story. $22 million barely covers the purchase of some government toilets. Also, if Bigelow has his fingerprints on this, I doubt the public will ever get the real truth.

Bill Pilgrim said...

If you want to know the dynamics and events culminating in the NYT article, it's crucial to read two earlier pieces by Leslie Kean (author of "UFO's:Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On The Record") that were published on the HuffPo in October.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/inside-knowledge-about-unidentified-aerial-phenomena_us_59dc1230e4b0b48cd8e0a5c7
AND
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fmr-manager-of-dod-aerospace-threat-program-ufos_us_59de2f4be4b0b992a8214874

Some of your questions will be answered in these pieces.
...
I heard Chris Mellon, the former DIA official who's on the TTS team, interviewed the other night. He said the government money simply ran out and was not renewed.
Some of the findings the program came up with are still classified.
...
Helene Cooper's comment about the program members being "true believers" can be seen in a derogatory light. Between all of the program's personnel there's more than a 150 years of top level security clearances, national intelligence work and advanced aeronautical engineering for secret gov't projects. They are not UFO cultists or mystics, but grew tired of all the secrecy and duplicity surrounding the government's treatment of the Phenomenon, which their combined experience has proved to them is very real.
What's wrong with that? Isn't more revelations and transparency what most of us want?

Anonymous said...

Here's the problem when you mention Chris Mellon. TTS equals Tom Delonge. That is where my bullshit meter starts to peg. Sorry, I don't trust that guy. There is nothing wrong with transparency. However, when it comes from a former DIA official, color me 'very' skeptical.

Bill Pilgrim said...

@Anonymous,

Understood. I felt the same way until I read the HuffPo articles by Leslie Kean. She's savvy, experienced, not naive, and I doubt she can be snookered. She was given info that doesn't appear in the NYT piece and thinks Delonge & the team that's been assembled are on the level.
Let's wait and see how it all plays out.

Mark OC said...

My problem is, the term is so overused and misused that I never expect true "transparency" from anyone anymore. Just seeing that word in any UFO context screams "smokescreen" to me.

Bill Pilgrim said...

@Mark,

Another important question you could add to your list: how will the mainstream media proceed now that there's a breech in the bulwark?
Not all of the coverage was neutral. The Murdoch owned papers mocked it big time.

Will there be follow-up? Will it just pass by like a blip on a radar screen?

It will be interesting to watch.

Anonymous said...

I am betting this will be just like the O'Hare airport UFO sighting in 2006. I thought for sure that hundreds of people seeing a UFO over a major airport would lead to something. What happened? A big nada. A couple of weeks later it was mostly forgotten. The media killed the story.

Bill Pilgrim said...

,,,Yeah. For example, the LA Times completely ignored it.

Wait...what?

That's right. Here in the heart of fantasy-land, sci-fi land, woo woo land, the Times has given it a pass.
Go figure.

Anonymous said...

Virtually anyone can be 'snookered' in the UFO field. Look at Linda Moulton Howe. Well known disinformation artist Richard Doty dangled some tantalizing fruit under Moulton Howe's nose. She fell for it hook, line and sinker. Sometimes these investigators 'want to believe.' They want to scoop others in the field. Even the best of them can fall for disinfo.

Bill Pilgrim said...

@Anon...

I cannot refute that. I can only rely on my own judgement regarding Kean's sharpness and abilities. In my view she and LMH are apples & oranges.
Howe never wrote a NY Times best seller about UFO's. Kean has.
Kean had plenty of experience investigating the subject under her belt - including with high level government insiders - before eventually meeting the TTS gang.
If that's not credible enough for you...so it goes.

Mark OC said...

I'm not sure who's behind it, but this story is being managed expertly, and I'd be very surprised if it just fades away like the O'Hare case.

Anonymous said...

Mark, I agree totally. Is some group trying to gauge public sentiment? It does feel like some public relations stunt. After seventy after Roswell, what have we truly learned? Not much to my way of thinking. I hope I am wrong but when government officials are suddenly opening up, I get a bad feeling about it all.

Mark OC said...

It's sad that our levels of distrust are so high, isn't it? A sign of the times, I guess.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure exactly why, but the UFO field seems to be infested with con artists and cheats of all sorts. Whether it is a sign of the times, I wish I knew.

nsurround said...

This whole thing could be a setup to divert us from something else that is on the horizon. But what? The story does seem carefully controlled and leads to more questions than it answers.

Bill Pilgrim said...

@Mark, Anon...

The saddest part of this whole affair is that after decades of secrecy, duplicity and (yes) disinformation regarding the Phenomenon, even a possible genuine shaft of sunlight in the darkness is viewed with suspicion.
Excessive secrecy is social poison...and creates all kinds of toxic effects.
...
If you haven't read "The Missing Times - News Media Complicity In the UFO Coverup," by the late investigative reporter Terry Hansen, it's a real eye-opener and shows the historical context leading up to where things stand today.
To my mind, every serious UFO researcher and enthusiast should know this book.

Mark OC said...

I'll look for that book, Bill. I am officially on hiatus from reading UFO books--that's basically all I've read for 5 years--but I could make an exception!

Bill Pilgrim said...

@Mark, et al,

Happy Christmas to you all!
Despite our occasional disagreements about 'The Phenomenon' and its implications, we are a community of souls bonded by the recognition that there are profound and momentous events afoot on Earth that are leading to a realization of a new paradigm: the Oneness of humanity.
What could be more beautiful?
Something about the UAP phenomenon is inspiring even the most hardened people - after a profound experience - to intuitively sense the interconnection of all things...on this planet and beyond.
That's what it's all about.

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